In the second episode of Gen.T's Crazy Smart Asia podcast, Make Love Not Porn founder Cindy Gallop talks #MeToo, fixing the system from the outside and her plans to launch the world’s first sex tech fund
Cindy Gallop wants you to talk about sex. More specifically, how hardcore pornography is destroying our ability to have a healthy sexual relationship. The goal of her user-generated sex tape sharing platform, Make Love Not Porn, is to spark a social sexual revolution.
Known for her uncompromising style, Gallop, describes herself as the Michael Bay of business as she likes to "blow shit up". In the past few years, that's meant acting as a vocal advocate for the #MeToo movement and fighting against sexual harassment in the advertising industry. But despite her appearance as the archetypal bold New Yorker, Cindy was born to a Malaysian-Chinese mother, and grew up in Brunei.
In the second episode of Gen.T's new podcast Crazy Smart Asia, which chronicles the unexpected stories of Asia's disruptors, the former advertising executive and entrepreneur talks to Liz Bacelar, host of the Innovators podcast and co-founder of the Together Group, about pornography, "woke-washing" and why Sheryl Sandberg is wrong.
Here are a few excerpts from the conversation. Click the audio player below to listen to the episode or subscribe via Apple, Spotify, Google or wherever you get your podcasts.
On changing the system from the outside
“The very concept of Lean In is about embracing the existing system. The movement puts the onus on women to change. But it's not us who need to change; it’s the system.”
“I used to think that I could help drive change within the system. I now encourage women to drive change from outside the system. Sheryl Sandberg wants us to lean in within the existing system; and I want us to redesign the system completely. Corporate change is very, very slow. And the reason for that is because at the top of every industry, and every company, is a closed loop of men talking to men about other men. And those men are sitting very pretty—why on earth would they ever want to rock the boat?”